Oct 232013

Trading NIFTY using Elliott Waves by Ramki of Wavetimes.com

In my last Elliott wave update on the Nifty Index (posted on 3 July 2013), I had presented you with a big picture scenario. The third chart in that post had one level as 5112 being 61.8% of wave A. It is gratifying to note that on 28 August, the index reached within 6 points of that level (5119) before it commenced another move higher. To those who don’t understand markets, 5119 will appear far away from the 4300 level which was written in my notes at the bottom of that chart. These people will have serious difficulty in making any money if they pursue technical trading. There are a couple of things that one needs to understand about Elliott waves. A big picture outlook is just that. It gives us a broad road map. Timing an entry to capture the next large move will demand paying careful attention to waves in the shorter cycles. In today’s post, I am presenting you with an example. This is a 10-minute chart! You can see that I have put some tentative Elliott wave labels on it. These are still work-in-progress, and are by no means conclusive.

In my book “Five Waves To Financial Freedom” I have explained in detail what happens when a five-wave move is completed. The main challenge lies in determining whether the move is actually finished. There are many ways of counting a move, and what you see here is one example. A short-term trader could have benefited by counting it like above, and by selling at 6220 with a very tight stop. I have often stated that trading the markets requires a little more than an ability to count waves. This is where many of us suffer from weakness. We choose to believe that what we are able to ‘see’ is how the markets will behave. If there is one important lesson you need to master before you expose real money it is the willingness to accept you could be wrong, and knowing beforehand what you will do when you are proved wrong. You need to evaluate various scenarios, and determine which gives you the best risk-reward trade off. Then, you need to be patient for the markets to come to your desired level. And if it does come there, you need the courage to actually pull the trigger!! And finally, you need to be diligent to monitor the position to take corrective action if the market sends out fresh clues that are counter to your thinking. It is precisely because of these challenges that you need to be wary of trade ideas that come at you thick and fast from various sources, including TV channels. It is so easy to say ‘buy here with a stop there’ and not bother with that recommendation beyond that date. After all, there are new recommendations for you to look at the next day!! Anyway, I wish you good luck with your trading. This blog aims to teach you the methods, and nothing more.

Ramki of WaveTimes.com

Oct 092013

Elliott Wave analysis is one of the most versatile tools in the hands of a trader, provided he/she knows how to use it correctly. At WaveTimes you have the opportunity to learn more about the Elliott Waves.

Old timers know that my favorite formation is where we see an extended fifth wave. In fact, it has been a recurrent theme in WaveTimes that extended fifth waves can make you rich. You can do a search for that in the web and see the various examples given in this blog. I believe the concept has also been well covered in the book “Five Waves to Financial Freedom”. In today’s post, we will look at a popular index in the Indian markets known as Bank Nifty Index.And you guessed right, we will see another example of an extended fifth wave and what happened next. And importantly,these concepts will work in ANY well traded market, and even if you don’t have any interest in India’s BankNifty Index, I suggest you spend a few minutes to read and understand the Elliott Wave ideas enumerated below.

The way to start counting your waves is from a significant top or low. Let us start with the important top around 13,430 that was posted on May 20, 2013. I suggest that you right click each image and open it in a new tab.

Bank Nifty Index Wave 2

As you can see, the first sell off is labeled as wave 1 and we got a 50% correction of that as wave 2. The next wave down was the third wave, and this was followed by a ‘Flat’ correction as the fourth wave. This fourth wave was 38.2% of the third wave as shown in the Elliott Wave chart below.

Bank Nifty Index Wave 4

After the fourth wave was completed, the markets set off earnestly to the South and we got an extended fifth wave. As you know, a wave is known as an extended wave when its proportion is unusually long in relation to its counterparts in the cycle.

Computing Extended fifth wave in Bank Nifty Index

The extended fifth wave shown above has traveled 138.2% of the distance seen from the start of the first wave till the end of the third wave, i.e. from points 0 to 3.But what happened afterwards is most instructive. True to its form, once the extended fifth wave completed its own minor fifth wave, we got a massive bout of short covering, and the market raced back to the level of wave ii within the extended fifth wave. This is what I have taught you many times in this blog and in my book. Imagine how much you could have made by buying near the end of the extended fifth wave!

My next Elliott Wave chart shows how the rally evolved from the lows. The chart below shows that we got a second wave that came down by 70.7% of the first wave. As you probably remember, there is something known as ‘alternation’ in Elliott Waves. If wave 2 was a simple correction, we should expect wave 4 to be complex. Likewise, if wave 2 was a deep correction (as is the case here) we should anticipate the 4th wave to be shallow. These are all illustrated here for your benefit.

Wave 2 in Bank Nifty uptrend

And finally, could one have anticipated where the fifth wave will finish for teh rally from the bottom? Of course, yes! Remember what you read in “Five Waves to Financial Freedom”? We compute the target for the fifth waves by measuring the distance from 0 to 3 and then calculating some ratios. In the present case, the fifth wave finished exactly at the 61.8% measure of the that move. See the next chart for this.

Wave 5 in Bank Nifty uptrend

Well folks, that brings us to the end of this post. What you need to know is that it is possible to anticipate the terminal points of moves, and while there are no guarantees that it will work, you will have a chance of taking a low-risk trade at those points. Trading is all about taking sensible risks. This is what we should all be doing. I realize many of you still have difficulty in counting waves, but that is a challenge you will overcome with practice. Good luck.

Sep 292013

Hello Folks,

When I return from my holidays in the second week of October, I plan to spend more time on this blog. A lot of you have been requesting for more frequent updates, and I will try and squeeze some more time to continue to teach you how to use Elliott Waves. Take care until then. Ramki ( Sao Paulo)

Sep 132013

In this Elliott Wave Analysis of Kuala Lumpur Stock Index, you can see the challenges facing the trader who has to decide whether the index has completed a five wave move already, or perhaps it has just posted a third wave top, and we are currently in the fifth wave. Let us start by looking at the first Elliott Wave chart. Here, you can see my Elliott Wave labels marked out clearly. The fourth wave has corrected the third wave by exactly 38.2%.
KL Index fourth wave
Elliott Wave Analysis of Kuala Lumpur Stock Index by Ramki from WaveTimes.com

Even by looking at the proportion of wave 1 relative to wave 3, you can make out that the third wave had extended.The Wave Principle says that we should expect one of the waves to be extended, but it doesn’t rule out the possibility of two extensions in a five wave sequence. This is illustrated by looking at the next chart which zooms into the fifth wave. In the Elliott Wave count shown below for the fifth wave, you can see that there are two ways to count the waves.

KL Index extended fifth wave

The first count is to label the sub wave 3 as having finished just above the 1600 level, and assuming that we have posted an extended fifth wave at 1827. This is currently my preferred count. As you know from my book “Five Waves to Financial Freedom”, when a fifth wave is extended, we should expect two things to happen. First, there will be a swift correction, but second, and more important, is the possibility of a double retracement of the extended fifth. This means we could see a full retest of the highs, and occasionally even an overthrow to a new high, before another swift sell off. Perhaps this is what is happening now. Should this hypothesis be correct, we should be extra careful near 1835 levels. Be alert for a reversal there, and join in on any swift down move with a stop above the high posted. However, there is another possibility that I have indicated in the chart. This is we have only seen wave 3 finish at 1827, and we are currently in wave 5. You will then compute a 38.2% and a 61.8% of the distance from 0 to 3 to figure out where the 5th wave will finish.These come in at 1860 and 1980. I think there is a better chance for 1860 to cap the move, and so we can summarize by saying that the index will probably post its top between 1835 and 1860 and come off towards 1600. We shall see. Trading the markets of course is a completely different game. It requires you to be patient for the right moment, and for the risk-reward to be properly aligned before you risk real money. I try to implement this strategy at wavetimes.net. But this blog gives you the tools so you can try your hand at it yourself. Remember, picking a top or a bottom is a vanity that the trader needs to entertain with great judgment. It is often safer for the first down move to start and join in on the first pullback. All the best.


Sep 122013

Hello Traders from the Middle East. So Dubai Stock index, or the DFM Index, has collapsed today, losing over 7%. Shocking, but the writing was on the wall all along. With the increase in rhetoric about Syria, we just needed a small push and it would have fallen over the cliff! When a move is approaching the end of its 5th wave, any informed investor would have sold off all his shares and waited for the inevitable correction to start. Elliott Wave Analysis of Dubai Stock Index shows that the 5th wave has indeed been completed. a fact that has become evident today, but something we should have anticipated. You can observe from the Elliott Wave charts attached that Dubai index had earlier seen an extended third wave. When you already have an extension in either the first wave or third wave, you should expect the fifth wave to be of normal proportions. Finally, by examining the sub waves of the fifth wave, you could have gotten out of most of your investments close to the top. This is shown in the last chart below. What is the outlook for Dubai Index from here? Well, there are mild supports at the fourth wave level within the just completed fifth wave.But expect any recovery to be mild and short lived. We should choose to exit on a pull back, waiting for the next bull market to be signaled by Elliott Waves sometime in the future.